Amelia Ashton

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  Are we all bitter?

  by LouBelle in

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  2. friends

  i posted a link on fb that lead to a topic here.

  i then had one of my 'friends' start having a go about how bitter everyone is here....fact he said.

  (he used to be a jw elder but left a while back, not sure why he left or if he has even researched the faith since leaving) the more i tried to reason with him that actually it is a support forum, the more he lashed out that everyone here bad mouths the jw's and only attack the jw's.

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  Amelia Ashton

  To an extent but it wasn't all bad.

  Finding out it was all a lie is a shock and bound to leave a nasty taste, how can it not?
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  JW Bombshell Seeds

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  though it is true that one conversation or one jw bombshell will unlikely rock a member from the cult, we are all here as a result of leaving or realising the lies we were fed, doubtless all the bombshells we heard or considered contributed to us leaving.. there seems to be a lot of apathy here at the moment that facts and information are not enough to convince a jw of the lies in watchtower.. this is not true.

  even if one missile does not bring down the wall, it contributes to its fall.. information empowers people, it is the most valuble asset in the war on cults.

  it may not sink the boat immediatly, but we know it springs leaks.

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  Amelia Ashton

  I agree that little seeds of doubt can be put on the back burner, sometimes for years.

  It may not even be that seed that initiates the doubts but once any doubt is entertained others can be re-visited which ignites more curiosity and research that will inevitable lead to discoveries of the lies, disingenuousness and duplicity of WTBT$.
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  The perplexing conundrum 607 b.c.e condensed down to ONE SIMPLE FACT

  by Brother of the Hawk in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was encouraged to post this thought, so here it is.. i recently finished reading "the gentile times reconsidered" by bro.

  carl olof jonsson, ( third edition).

  phew!!

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  Amelia Ashton

  I really wanted Brother of the Hawk to be right. I even got my bible out, something I haven't done in almost 4 years!
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  My first post...Facebook discussion

  by mzmmom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been visiting this site for almost a year, and i have found it very useful.

  there was a post on a facebook group last night about jw visits and to be nice when they call at your door.

  so, after about 100 posts, i posted a link to this website.

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  Amelia Ashton

  Welcome

  Sounds like you are no stranger to pain. You will gets lot of support and understanding here
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  I played with the Ouija board last night....

  by dazed but not confused in

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  2. humour

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  Amelia Ashton

  If they included a demon with every purchase we would all want one. Imagine the questions we could ask, like does God exist? Lol
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  Do you blame Jehovah, Yahweh, God, Jesus, etc. for the corruption of the borg?

  by Fading Begins in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you hold god accountable for the corruption of the borg?

  i've noticed there seems to be a bitterness, by some, that includes "god" in the equation, when discussing the borg and their policies, the governing body, elders actions, etc.

  do the borg's transgressions originate with god, or does he feel the same disgust as we do?

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  Amelia Ashton

  A non existent entity cannot be blamed for anything.

  It would be like blaming Santa for lousy xmas presents. Or not getting any at all.
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  The perplexing conundrum 607 b.c.e condensed down to ONE SIMPLE FACT

  by Brother of the Hawk in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was encouraged to post this thought, so here it is.. i recently finished reading "the gentile times reconsidered" by bro.

  carl olof jonsson, ( third edition).

  phew!!

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  Amelia Ashton

  *** it-2 p. 32 Jeremiah, Book of ***

  When Written. For the most part, the book of Jeremiah was not written at the time he declared the prophecies. Rather, Jeremiah evidently did not put any of his proclamations into writing until he was commanded by Jehovah, in the fourth year of King Jehoiakim (625 B.C.E.), to dictate all the words given him by Jehovah to date. This included not only words spoken about Judah in Josiah’s time but also proclamations of judgment on all the nations. (Jer 36:1, 2) The resulting scroll was burned by Jehoiakim when Jehudi read it to him. But Jeremiah was ordered to write it over, which he did through his secretary Baruch, with many additional words.—36:21-23, 28, 32.

  The remainder of the book was evidently added later, including the introduction, which mentions the 11th year of Zedekiah (Jer 1:3), other prophecies that Jeremiah wrote down at the time he was to deliver them (30:2; 51:60), and the letter to the exiles in Babylon (29:1). Additionally, the proclamations uttered during the reign of Zedekiah and the accounts of the events after Jerusalem’s fall, down to about 580 B.C.E., were added later. It may be that, although the scroll written by Baruch was the basis for a large part of the book, Jeremiah afterward edited and arranged it when adding later sections.

  A few "evidentlys" in there and a "may be".
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  Goofey CO visit..your comments please

  by Kensho in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't post here often but do read daily, wanted to share a couple of interested things from recent co visit,.

  good talk on opening night about forgiveness etc.

  etc.. (to bad the borg doesn't practice this) but then on cong.

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  Amelia Ashton

  What bollox!

  I discovered an elder had been dishonest for 6 years and in that time made an elder in 2 different congregations while carrying on with his fraudulent practices.

  Is he saying then that holy spirit can appoint some-one an elder but we have to wait for Jah to expose wrong doing and he's got too much on his plate to sort it in time to stop a corrupt elder getting appointed.

  As far as I am aware this elder has still not been exposed and is unlikely too now so he got away with it that time. It has since come to my attention that he is now working elsewhere with fake qualifications!!
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  It gets better. Part II of "Apostates are blown out of the water"

  by never a jw in

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  2. friends

  just a recap.. i posted a thread yesterday about an exchange of e-mails with a well known and respected elder and c.o.

  sibstitute in a spanish circuit somewhere in the u.s. the man is about 50, raised in the truth, belongs to a family where all men are at least elders.

  he is proud to have forsaken his dream of becoming a doctor to serve jehovah.

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  Amelia Ashton

  If this guy is happy in his ignorance discovering TTATT could destroy that happiness. Why would you want to do that?

  Some people are better off in happy ignorance even if they are living a lie. If the truth is too much to bear and would cause him to lose everything you have already asked questions that may come back to him later.

  If you want to remain friends with this guy I would advise backing off now and letting your words settle. They will come back to him if the time is ever right.

  Just my opinion. x
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  Is the WT really a charity?

  by The Song Remains The Same in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  further to my enquiries here about the red cross, and also in noticing the autralian financials posted in this thread by jwleaks, i took a look at the uk financial statements helpfully posted at jwleaks here.. there is a lot of good information related to the income and expenses of the wt in the uk over a number of years.

  well worth digging into if you are of a business mind for sure.

  i will focus on the 2011 statements, found here and here since there seems to be two, one for the watchtower and one for the int'l bible students.

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  Amelia Ashton

  The WTBTS has charitable status which means they are entitled to certain favourable tax criteria and exceptions but are they a charity, that opens up an entirely different line of reasoning!

  IMHO they do more harm than good and their charitable status should be revoked